Glooscap
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SuggestionsSAIYANS/HALF SAIYANS
I think it shoudkl involve the saga's alot, like what virgil said before
defeat vegeta to get kaioken x10
and defeat ginyu to get kaioken x20
beat freiza with 100k pl for ssj
beat gero and 19 with 250k pl for Ussj
beat cell with 500k pl for ssj2
beat majin(fat Buu) with 1mill pl for imperfect ssj3(new idea i'll explain) or for half saiyans mystic which they CAN revert from and still go ssj but they can;t get ssj3 or 4(more on this in a bit too)
beat super buu with 3mill for perfect ssj3
beat kid buu for an ability to create a title for your char
beat bebi/golden oozaru with 15 mill for ssj4
beat syn-shenron and brolli with 100 mill for LSSJ
anyway about imperfect and perfect ssj3.Remeber how when goku first went ssj3 he struggled when he first tried to go ssj3(well a little bit).Well i was thinking that you could use shorter hair for imperfect ssj3 and longer hair for perfect ssj3
and the revert from mystic thing?
i know dbgt wasn't very inline with dbz but gohan DID go ssj and ssj2 in dbgt therefore he REVERT and went ssj but if you choose mystic you get the Zsword but cannot gain higher lvls of ssj but if they do not choose to become mystic the may aquire the hgigher lvls of ssj
i'll add more in my next post.....
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Glooscap
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NAMEKIANS
oh boy here's a tough one...
go to namek and find ruined city with 75k pl to get high focus
find nail with 100k pl to get higher focus
defeat recoome with 125k pl to get extreme focus(these are needed to sync explain that later)
defeat ginyu to and rescue nail with 245k pl to get sync one
find kami and do a namekian fusion and get down to half health while fighting 17 with 400k pl to get sync2
fight cell form 2 with 1 mill pl to get sync focus
fight majinn buu(fat) to get super namek(needs sync focus explain in a bit)
wondering what all those focuses are? i'll explain,those are needed to get sync 1 and 2 and sync focus is needed to get super namek why?
it seems that namekians meditate a LOT so why not use focus as a way to gain cool transformations?
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Glooscap
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THIS IS THE LAST ONE TODAY:
HUMANS
these ones are least in line with the sagas
50k and defeat piccolo(from db) for tension
100k and defeat raditz for high tension
150k and defeat vegeta for triclops
500k and beat freiza for mystic(a different kind)
this type of mytsic increases you power and makes you aura either white or black depending on weather you are good or bad increasing your power x10 but you can use it ONCE
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Virgil
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their kool, i like the imperfect ssj3 thing, but to add on that, goku could only go ssj3 for like 10 mins, coz it took so much energy apparently, so u cud add summin like that in
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Glooscap
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actually that's why i have "perfect" ssj3 because the imperfect ssj3 is timed
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Omatic
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Inperfect ssj3 doesn't exist =/
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Glooscap
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Yes,O-matic I know it doesn't exist,that is why I explained it after my suggestion it's just to make the game a little funner!
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Glooscap
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FLYING,SKILLS,AND TRAINING
Ho hey Ho(lol)
You guys remmeber the car capsules right?I hope so or you'd be suffering from short and long term memory loss.
I think there should be a shop in the city where you buy capsules like jets,helicopters,cars because i don't think players should be able to fly at 250pl i think they should get fly at 100k pl and nimbus cloud at 50k pl,But untill you get those you have to use jets,helicopters to fly around but you'd have to refuel them at a gas station to keep them running and to not run out of fuel(duh) that way gettign around isn;t quite so easy when you start.
SKILLS
Skills should be harder to get than just talking to soemone and learning it i think that a lvl and powerlevel(dbl2 uses this too) to learn a skill AND need to complete a quest to get some...more powerful and...funner skills such and galactic doughnut where you have to fuse(using fusion dance if Omatic gets it working) and get an item or kill something to aquire the skill
To get what might be the "powerfulest" skill the "super kamehameha" or whatever else you want the most powerful skill to be you have to win a budokai and get it given to you by a GM.
TRAINING
i think training should be hard so unlike version 1.4 people couldn;t get 300k in 10 mins I'd much prefer 300k in hmmm 6 hours? Of course when you got higher lvls you could go into gravity and stuff like that to increase lvls and powerlvls faster but at the beginning it should be slow(if the training is moderatly slow people like it ALOT because they have to work for something) and do not use will honor and purity THEY SUCK dragonball elysium didn't use it or clandbgt2 or dblive2 or dragonball zeta
NO WILL HONOR OR PURITY FOR ANYTHING!
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Virgil
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that sounds pretty kool, hopefully itll get done but then again, land mass would ahve to be increased, so players who dont have buku, nimbus, or any form of transportation can get around. Or u cud make the map bigger...increase land mass, but also make it so their are more smaller islands, or completely different towns althogether.
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Glooscap
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From now on i'll post one of these a day untill i run outta ideas
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Virgil
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you ran out of ideas quick.....
how about better animated trans, instead of the normal pop into ssj or whatever...and if u cant do that very well...animate it so that u conceal urself within a ki sheild while u transform, so that u dont see what happens much...
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Omatic
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Animated transformations it shall be, then!
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Gochek
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SSj3 and SSJ4SSJ3 goku has gone ssj3 before, remember he trained extremely hard to get it while he was int he underowlrd and how when he fought vegeta he didnt wanna hurt vegetas pride by turnin ssj3, and he didnt wanna waste his time on earth, so yeah ssj3 should be extremely hard to achieve i think, i like this game cuz its like a believable realistic dbz game so far, i think we should keep it that way, like ssj3 should be very hard to do the first like 4-8 times u do it i think, and the trans should take more than like 30 seconds to transform, those first couple times ya kno i mean just do the sleep var and well crap u kno wat ur doin forget that last part lol ssj4 though should be exactly like dbgt though, like u have to have a controlled form of oozaru, to do achevie it
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Virgil
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Re: SSj3 and SSJ4hmm...did anyone get what i meant when i said about ssj3? what i meant Gochek(and no offence here) is that ssj3(apparently) takes a lot more energy to transform into, thats why its not very common in the show, i can only remember...3 times it was used in dbz, and the once in dbgt.
I found this, from somewhere that says about what FUNimation says about the manga(which is apparently the more accurate version)
"This forms increases power and speed even more, but also uses a lot of power, so it cannot be maintained for very long. "
No then...does anyone think i went a little overboard there? XD
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Glooscap
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I think that's a little too detailed...quite personally.
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Glooscap
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SSJ/HALFBREED TRANS REVISITED
thank you virgil you inspired this idea with your own idea
I think we should add ssjfm(fully mastered) these will offer a larger(but not much larger)power boost plus,ssj will NOT take up stamina.
Same with ssj2 but ssj3 will have imperfect(go back to ssj/halfbreed transes) mastered and fm.
SSJ3: the imperfect form will take a total of 5 hours in ssj to reach mastered,then 20 hours of mastered ssj3 to get fm.
Imperfect will take up more stamina and accuracy than mastered and fm will take up no stamina at all
CONTINUEING TRANFORMING: you don't to to have the fm form of a transformation to get the next one but if you have the fm transformation BEFORE the first time you trans into the next trans the time limit will be cut in two meaning 20 hours is 10.
TIME LIMITS: to get ssjfm,ussjfm,ssj2fm,ssj3fm,and ssj4fm you will need to have been in the normal(or mastered) form of that trans for a time limit
SSJFM:will take 5 hours in total(these add up)
USSJFM:5 hours BUT you must have ssjfm(this sort of branches off from ssj i will explain later)
SSJ2FM:ten hours of ssj2
SSJ3FM:twenty hours of ssj3 mastered
SSJ4FM:50 hours of ssj4
USSJFM/USSJ: these transes will brach off on their own you need ssjfm to go ussj or ssjfm so this is like somethign extra not needed
btw add it so to go ssj2 you need to be in ssj and so on.
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Virgil
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blimey...dont you think those times are a little high? 50 hours? lets try cuttin it to minutes rather than hours...how about...
SSJFM = 10 mins
SSJ2FM = 20 mins
SSJ3FM = 30 mins
SSJ4FM = 30 mins
or...if we got a night and day system, we could put it like that..say...
SSJFM = 5 game days
SSJ2FM = 7 game days
SSJ3FM = 10 game days
SSJ4FM = 13 game days
then again, the only ssj to be properly mastered was ssj1, we were never told if goku could do ssj2 easily or not.
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Glooscap
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NO! They are suppsoed to be hard! these are challenging! THEY WILL NOT BE AS EASY AS TEN MINUTES DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE ANOTHER"easy-train-for-half-and-hour-and-become-all-powerful-unlock-everything-in-half-and-hour'AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HARD!
Poeple likes challenges!Think about ir Virgil would you like to play a video game with NO challange? I don't think so!
Let me explain,
these are suppsoed to be "bonus" transes they make it so you don;t need stamina but think about version 1.4 how long do you think i stayed in ssj3? or some guy stayed in ssj like i said the hours add up! BELIVE ME
ssj4 is the most powerful thign in the game exceopt for thsoe lucky enough to get lssj besides Goku DID master ssj2 and tehse will make it challenging and fun! These games are suppsoed to be fun,and challenging.not easy and boring! Have you even played dbgt2 i played it and it was incredibly hard! I played dblive2 for about a week before i got ssj and that;s because i spent a few hours a day looking for the dragonballs repetedly!I AMDE IT 5,10,20AND 50 HOURS FOR A REASON SO TI IS HARD!
though i accept your opinion think abotu tenkaichi.Would you like it if those last 4 stages in the buu saga were easy? or mabye the ultimate battle?
CHALLENGING IS THE KEY!
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Virgil
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calm down >.> good point tho, but 50 hrs? i could complete final fantasy 7 and 8 in less time than that =p plus, i didnt say how long a night and day would be on the game, or if it would even be added >.>
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Glooscap
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the reason ti is 50 hours is to challenge,it's the most powerful trans in the game and remember these fm forms are NOT nesscessary to progress in the game unless you want ussj/fm so really these are bonuses i still think 50 hours is a good amount of time
besides there is no night and day in the hyperbolic time chamber(where goku fmed ssj)
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Omatic
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Glooscap, do you know how many 50 hours are? More than two days. It'll take weeks for the average player to complete it. I do agree with your point of view, but not with the 50 hours..
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Glooscap
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fine 30 hours.
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Glooscap
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Oh oh the TEACH SKILL verb!
TEACH SKILL/TRAIN PLAYER
how abotu we have a quest(fairly hard) that will let players be able to teach their techniques to other players!
Of course taht wouldn;t work so how about only letting them teach that players own CUSTOM TECH so you make a technique after you finish the quest and then you can teach it to people.would that be cool or what??
TRAINING A PLAYER
you do the same quest as for up there ^,but also other than teaching a custom skill you can train someone
you would gain no pl but the person who you are training would gain .4x the amount he would normally get (.4x is alot)
this increases the games society and society is what makes games go BOOM(probably not but i felt like saying(typing) it)
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Omatic
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| Quote: | TEACH SKILL/TRAIN PLAYER
how abotu we have a quest(fairly hard) that will let players be able to teach their techniques to other players!
Of course taht wouldn;t work so how about only letting them teach that players own CUSTOM TECH so you make a technique after you finish the quest and then you can teach it to people.would that be cool or what?? |
I like that, I like it alot. But programming a system wich allows you to create your very own skills is beyond my skills. Well, there is one way I can think of, but that is very unsecure and unrobust. It even can lead to a crash of the game.
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TRAINING A PLAYER
you do the same quest as for up there ^,but also other than teaching a custom skill you can train someone
you would gain no pl but the person who you are training would gain .4x the amount he would normally get (.4x is alot)
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I need more info on this one, I don't understand it very well...
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Virgil
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| Quote: | | I need more info on this one, I don't understand it very well... |
He means like dual train in the elysium games, but instead of both players getting pl or exp whatever, only the one does, and he gets a boosted amount of pl gain.
I can only think of one way of doin the custom skills part, but if you cant do it, i probs wouldnt get it to work anyway I cant think of anyway to teach them to other people tho
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Virgil
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btw
| Glooscap wrote: | btw add it so to go ssj2 you need to be in ssj and so on.
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did you mean here that you have to be in your ssj form to transform into your ssj2 form, and to trans into ssj3, you have to be in ssj2, and so on?
Its only a minor thing, but i never liked it in other games it was in, i still prefer the way we have it now, where if you have ssj3 for example, you can trans into it whenever you want, without having to be in ssj2.
Its not like the charcters from dbz had to be in ssj to trans to ssj2, or ssj2 to be in ssj3....
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Omatic
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I agree with Virgil here.
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Glooscap
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How about you can trans in order if you like but you don;t have to if you don't?
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Omatic
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It already is like that, I think..
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Virgil
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it is..it just gives you the option to go to whatever level you like...
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