Time to revive this thing...

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

Yes, the forums are dying. And it has been waiting for its revive long enough. The lack of a community is the problem, I am somewhat the only one posting, and am actually talking to myself when I am posting.

So I've made up a simple plan:

Step #1: Operation "Rebuild Forum"
Get the forums back to the best fase it ever has been. That was back in the days when we were playing those forum-games, and used to post all random stuff in the off-topic section(Virgil, where are you staying with your forum-games?! Razz

)

Step #2:Operation: "Forum-facelift"
Once #1 has been succesfull, it is time to form a bit of community. And I gotta admit, these forums suck. They have horrible layouts. It must look more fancy, leave that part up to me -- what I can do is very limited, but I'll make sure that I'll do 100% of what I can do.

Step #3: Operation: "Expand Community"
A community must be constructed, but how do we lure in new players/fans? Alpha tests, of course. When the game will have its base 100%, the alpha tests will be launched (probably hosted by me.) As it is now, the game looks pretty awesome... So it must attract a small stable community. A community brings productivity with it, suggestions will be flooding the 'suggestions' forum once again! (well, "again"... not that it was once being flooded, I just wanted to use fancy words. >_>)

This plan is probably a push forward to V3, and we need to achieve it. It may take a month or two, though, but it is do-able. I am seeing V3, or the game as a whole, more serious than ever.

...okay, now I'm going to bug all three of you to read this post >_>

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

I'm still working on giving the forum a facelift, as you (should) notice, there are menus added to the left. These things are what I meant when I said that I'd make it look more fancy. I like it like this, but it needs more work.

I still haven't been able to drag any of you (three or four) to this post, so I'm still talking to a brick wall for now. >_>

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

More operation "Forum Facelift" news: Added a newsfader~~(still not functioning correctly, text needs to be highlighted to make it viewable...somehow)~~ and also added a "latest posts" object at the bottom of the forum's index page. Not sure if I'm going to keep it there, though...

So.. I'm still talking to a brick wall, I can't seem to catch any of you online...

Site Admin Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 6

Hey wall hes talking to you!! Razz

(j/k)

I like the thing at the left

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

Heh.

Guys, come on... where's the live! Get back to posting, otherwise the coma in which the game currently is will have fatal consequences: Another motivation-loss of O-matic. And I'm being dead serious, by the way.

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

Hey pal, can you tell them to be active again? I seem to failing...

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

Okay. I am sick of waiting. You guys do realise that your absence is delaying me?

Look, I have many and many design-ideas which I need to discuss: I cannot do everything by myself, I can't decide by myself. The "you work and I'll shut up"-attitude is starting to annoy me. All three(yeah, pretty impressive, huh?) of you have seen this post, yet no action. With all systems, I have encountered the point where I have to make decisions, but no one of you is there: because I need help, and I've been waiting long enough. I could post all of the issues now, but history proves that I'm only talking to air.

Seriously, guys, it's all in your hands. If this situation doesn't change soon, I'm afraid that I'll just discontinue this project for good and work on The Volcano as my main project. And if any of you refuses to offer any form of contribution, then you should retire as admin.

It's simple: I could either wait forever(nearly litterally), or just think " [duck] this" and throw it into the recycle bin. And I'm tempted to do the latter. I mean heck, the only one who at least tried something was Virgil(offered to do the admin-system), but even that wasn't enough.

"But there's nothing to post about" is probably the counter-argument, well, there actually is. Once I notice that you guys are alive again(probably due help of the forum-games. hey, it are the forum-games that kept these forums alive for a while), I will do something myself and offer enough points to discuss about, mainly things about the game. Once that point arrives, the development of a base will be nearly done, so we can drive towards alpha-tests(which will lure-in some new members)

And yes, I am mad, in case you haven't noticed.

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

It's official, this era is now called "Dark Days: Etdbzf's Staff's Hibernation"

And I'm taking an hibernation myself, just like you guys did. I am sick of waiting. I will stop working on etdbzf for the following two, three, or maybe even four months, and don't blame me, but yourselves. I will work on The Volcano and The War instead, they offer much more perspective than Etdbzf.

Oh, how will I laugh when one of you in the following months are "I havent checked the forums in ages(nearly litterally), let me check what poor O-matic posted in the meanwhile" and will find this project discontinued, with even the chance that it will be fully discontinued, with that I mean: O-matic may even quit.

And yes, perhaps I will erase this freaking project: my staff became lazy and don't care a shit about this project anymore. I will either search for new staff, give the current team a last chance, or just forget this whole project. And I'm tempted to do the latter, all my work is for nothing. I've spent a shitload of time on constructing a solid base of the game, and of the quest system, and getting the storyline on paper(well, notepad, that is), and in the meanwhile you guys don't even care and let me here alone in the shit when I need help. Way to go, guys. If you don't want to be a staff member anymore because you don't want to carry the responsibilities anymore, then tell me so instead of letting me rely on you when you aren't doing a shit and are ignoring your responsibilities.

Don't expect anything from me in the following few months.

Adios,

A pissed off, lonely, f*cking mad, left and temporary f*cked off O-matic.

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

Okay, it's been a month(nearly), and neither of you have seen the above reply on own initiative: I had to link you guys to this post. Okay, that's a bad thing on itself -- but what did you do afterwards? Xdark at least did as if he cared, by talking about it. Virgil was just like "ah... okay". And what then? Still no activity, still no posts, still a huge sign of inactivity. It obviously means that none of you care.

And that brings us to the unavoidable point: All of you have lost your administrative and moderative function in EternalDBZFighters. In-game aswell as on the forums. Shortly: Everyone is fired. If you don't care about me, I won't care about you anymore too. Adios, guys. I will search for new staff, will start working on EtDBZf again soon, and all of that without any of you. This is what all of you have achieved by fucking off from the forums and letting me alone in this dusty boards, without any visiting. Again, adios ex-staff-members. Thanks for the time in the Zeta-stages though, it's hard to believe that you once were loyal and trustable. It's your own fucking fault for not taking my begging serious.

Again, adios lazy staff. Don't expect a position back in the staff, ever. You've made mad, and not just a bit -- it's just that I can control myself, otherwise there'd be swearing between every 5 words or so.

I wonder how long it will take you all to realise that you're fired?

Once more: Bye lazy, not-caring and unrelieable staff members who hardly ever contributed to V3. I hope you are all statisfied with yourselves.

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

It's breathing again. It's alive again, but barely.

I really apreciate that you started being active again, but, unfortunately, this is a horrible timing. I am very busy these weeks, and don't have much time to work on Etdbzf the following weeks. Your activity is now alive, but as there is no progress, there is no food to feed the posters: There is something needed to whine/talk/fight about. We're in the exact same stage as the one of a year ago: Forum games were the only threads where was posted, I booked no progress at all, and the forums died. The same could happen again, but now I know how not to deal with this. Only problem is that I have absolutely no time to deal with it on the right way.

On a slightly more postive note, I recently opened the project files again. It will take some time to find myself back in the code again: I don't really remember how the heck all those systems work. Once I get back into that I will start posting a few of the structural problems of the game. Just make sure to remember that it might to take some time. Once that is solved, I can go on. I just need to hurry up as much as I can.

And if both of you don't mind, I will give you back the administrative status. Let me know (in this thread) whether you want it back. I'd also like some ideas on how to lure some new fans. An alpha test could be an idea.

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 76

It really was no big deal O-matic. I'd be happy to return, and my offer that I made months ago about me being able to code for you awhile still stands. You give me dirrection, and i'll go. As you know, im not a very good iconist though, so don't expect much in that category.

In order for us to revive the forums, we need some hosting time. Cause if we don't have that, than we have NO posters at all. We need them to get here somehow, and thats how it will be. If you didnt delete earlier versions of the game, play them for awhile. Let the players know about the next version, and let them play the old version for awhile to see all the improvements. The big problem there is getting someone to host for you. That, I find being difficult for Revenge aswell....

As for reviving the forums, thats the main point that I think will help. I'll try to come up with new ideas, for this and Revenge, and i'll get back to you. As for now i'm glad to be back, although it felt like I never really left.

Site Admin Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 115

Well, im ready when you guys are, so anytime, i'd come back...

Darks right about the posters though, without hosting the game, there is no way to get posters, so if you do have anything back there, get it up, nothing much we can do 'til then...well, you's two can have a stab at stuff...but as for me...well im lazy, so 'nuff said.

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

There you go. Both back as admin.

I realise that the point where the game needs to be hosted more has ben reached... I will try my best to get back the programming-rythm again as soon as possible, but that won't be soon. Won't have time this weekend, nor today. There is too little to host.

I did recently look (or rather: stare) at the source code, with quite alot of
unorganised code. It is all more clear to me now, but I also found some new structural issues: they are just packing up. I'll be sure to ask all of you (two) for help on each one of them.

Anyhow, welcome back to the world of stress: Etdbzf V3 development.

Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 110

I'll help but don't make me admin...I'm a suckass admin....lol...

I still have the capacity to host though...just do not give me admin...please.(like I have to ask)

So if you need help getting it up....my computer was recently "cleansed" of files so I could host if you wanted the game up.

Site Admin Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 278

I apreciate the offer, Glooscap - but I'm afraid I have to pass. Alpha and beta tests will only be online for a few hours; I can do that myself. The game is nowhere near finished and ready for full-time hosting. So for now, I'll have to pass every hosting-offer. Sorry. =/