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Glooscap
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Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:05 pm |
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SSJ/HALFBREED TRANS REVISITED
thank you virgil you inspired this idea with your own idea
I think we should add ssjfm(fully mastered) these will offer a larger(but not much larger)power boost plus,ssj will NOT take up stamina.
Same with ssj2 but ssj3 will have imperfect(go back to ssj/halfbreed transes) mastered and fm.
SSJ3: the imperfect form will take a total of 5 hours in ssj to reach mastered,then 20 hours of mastered ssj3 to get fm.
Imperfect will take up more stamina and accuracy than mastered and fm will take up no stamina at all
CONTINUEING TRANFORMING: you don't to to have the fm form of a transformation to get the next one but if you have the fm transformation BEFORE the first time you trans into the next trans the time limit will be cut in two meaning 20 hours is 10.
TIME LIMITS: to get ssjfm,ussjfm,ssj2fm,ssj3fm,and ssj4fm you will need to have been in the normal(or mastered) form of that trans for a time limit
SSJFM:will take 5 hours in total(these add up)
USSJFM:5 hours BUT you must have ssjfm(this sort of branches off from ssj i will explain later)
SSJ2FM:ten hours of ssj2
SSJ3FM:twenty hours of ssj3 mastered
SSJ4FM:50 hours of ssj4
USSJFM/USSJ: these transes will brach off on their own you need ssjfm to go ussj or ssjfm so this is like somethign extra not needed
btw add it so to go ssj2 you need to be in ssj and so on.
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Virgil
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Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:43 pm |
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blimey...dont you think those times are a little high? 50 hours? lets try cuttin it to minutes rather than hours...how about...
SSJFM = 10 mins
SSJ2FM = 20 mins
SSJ3FM = 30 mins
SSJ4FM = 30 mins
or...if we got a night and day system, we could put it like that..say...
SSJFM = 5 game days
SSJ2FM = 7 game days
SSJ3FM = 10 game days
SSJ4FM = 13 game days
then again, the only ssj to be properly mastered was ssj1, we were never told if goku could do ssj2 easily or not. |
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Glooscap
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:05 am |
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NO! They are suppsoed to be hard! these are challenging! THEY WILL NOT BE AS EASY AS TEN MINUTES DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE ANOTHER"easy-train-for-half-and-hour-and-become-all-powerful-unlock-everything-in-half-and-hour'AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HARD!
Poeple likes challenges!Think about ir Virgil would you like to play a video game with NO challange? I don't think so!
Let me explain,
these are suppsoed to be "bonus" transes they make it so you don;t need stamina but think about version 1.4 how long do you think i stayed in ssj3? or some guy stayed in ssj like i said the hours add up! BELIVE ME
ssj4 is the most powerful thign in the game exceopt for thsoe lucky enough to get lssj besides Goku DID master ssj2 and tehse will make it challenging and fun! These games are suppsoed to be fun,and challenging.not easy and boring! Have you even played dbgt2 i played it and it was incredibly hard! I played dblive2 for about a week before i got ssj and that;s because i spent a few hours a day looking for the dragonballs repetedly!I AMDE IT 5,10,20AND 50 HOURS FOR A REASON SO TI IS HARD!
though i accept your opinion think abotu tenkaichi.Would you like it if those last 4 stages in the buu saga were easy? or mabye the ultimate battle?
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Virgil
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:03 pm |
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calm down >.> good point tho, but 50 hrs? i could complete final fantasy 7 and 8 in less time than that =p plus, i didnt say how long a night and day would be on the game, or if it would even be added >.> |
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Glooscap
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:59 pm |
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the reason ti is 50 hours is to challenge,it's the most powerful trans in the game and remember these fm forms are NOT nesscessary to progress in the game unless you want ussj/fm so really these are bonuses i still think 50 hours is a good amount of time
besides there is no night and day in the hyperbolic time chamber(where goku fmed ssj) |
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Omatic
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:43 pm |
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Glooscap, do you know how many 50 hours are? More than two days. It'll take weeks for the average player to complete it. I do agree with your point of view, but not with the 50 hours.. |
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Glooscap
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:51 pm |
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Glooscap
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:59 pm |
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Oh oh the TEACH SKILL verb!
TEACH SKILL/TRAIN PLAYER
how abotu we have a quest(fairly hard) that will let players be able to teach their techniques to other players!
Of course taht wouldn;t work so how about only letting them teach that players own CUSTOM TECH so you make a technique after you finish the quest and then you can teach it to people.would that be cool or what??
TRAINING A PLAYER
you do the same quest as for up there ^,but also other than teaching a custom skill you can train someone
you would gain no pl but the person who you are training would gain .4x the amount he would normally get (.4x is alot)
this increases the games society and society is what makes games go BOOM(probably not but i felt like saying(typing) it)
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Omatic
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:38 pm |
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| Quote: | TEACH SKILL/TRAIN PLAYER
how abotu we have a quest(fairly hard) that will let players be able to teach their techniques to other players!
Of course taht wouldn;t work so how about only letting them teach that players own CUSTOM TECH so you make a technique after you finish the quest and then you can teach it to people.would that be cool or what?? |
I like that, I like it alot. But programming a system wich allows you to create your very own skills is beyond my skills. Well, there is one way I can think of, but that is very unsecure and unrobust. It even can lead to a crash of the game.
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TRAINING A PLAYER
you do the same quest as for up there ^,but also other than teaching a custom skill you can train someone
you would gain no pl but the person who you are training would gain .4x the amount he would normally get (.4x is alot)
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I need more info on this one, I don't understand it very well... |
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Virgil
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Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:55 pm |
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| Quote: | | I need more info on this one, I don't understand it very well... |
He means like dual train in the elysium games, but instead of both players getting pl or exp whatever, only the one does, and he gets a boosted amount of pl gain.
I can only think of one way of doin the custom skills part, but if you cant do it, i probs wouldnt get it to work anyway I cant think of anyway to teach them to other people tho |
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Virgil
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Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:46 pm |
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btw
| Glooscap wrote: | btw add it so to go ssj2 you need to be in ssj and so on.
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did you mean here that you have to be in your ssj form to transform into your ssj2 form, and to trans into ssj3, you have to be in ssj2, and so on?
Its only a minor thing, but i never liked it in other games it was in, i still prefer the way we have it now, where if you have ssj3 for example, you can trans into it whenever you want, without having to be in ssj2.
Its not like the charcters from dbz had to be in ssj to trans to ssj2, or ssj2 to be in ssj3.... |
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Omatic
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:36 pm |
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I agree with Virgil here. |
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Glooscap
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Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:55 pm |
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How about you can trans in order if you like but you don;t have to if you don't? |
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Omatic
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Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:54 pm |
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It already is like that, I think.. |
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Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:15 pm |
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it is..it just gives you the option to go to whatever level you like...
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